Sep. 12th, 2015 10:50 am
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I went to see this last night, and it's brilliant. I'm not a huge Tom Hardy fan (I don't dislike him at all; I love his attitude re Mad Max, but I don't go all weak at the knees) but he was absolutely amazing.

About the only thing that spoiled it for me was getting distracted looking at the 2 sets of makeup used to make each of the twins look subtly different; it was absolutely flawless. They'd even managed to give them different scars (not from in-film injuries; old, healed ones).

Yes, there's violence; in terms of goriness it's not half as bad as some 15s, but because it's so realistic (i.e. not ridiculous over the top fantasy one-shot-and-they're-dead minimally bloody fantasy style, it's a lot more affecting and very believable.

I came away actually feeling really sorry for Ronnie; he might have been a decent person, were it not for his upbringing Reggie, and his intermittent refusal to take the tablets intended to control his schizophrenia. (It's unlikely that he'd ever not be violent, I reckon, but it could have been so much less bad than it ended up.) Meanwhile Reggie came across as the worst sort of charming, charismatic manipulator; more intentionally violent, rather than unable to control his impulses.

There's an off-screen marital rape scene at one point. It's very brief and, as usual with me, most upsetting because it reminds me how recently that was criminalised.

I don't think I want it on DVD; it's in no way a fun or feelgood film, so I can't think when I'd feel like rewatching. That doesn't stop it being very, very good.

Date: 2015-09-12 10:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alby-mangroves.livejournal.com
I don't think I'll watch this - I feel pretty much the same as you a bout Tom Hardy - I think he's great but I"m just not fannish about him.

Date: 2015-09-12 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] puddingcat.livejournal.com
I'm thoroughly glad I went to see it! It's absolutely not the sort of thing I can see a fandom popping up for, unless very small for Yuletide.

Date: 2015-09-12 02:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daegaer.livejournal.com
Thanks for this- I've really been ambivalent about seeing this (nothing to do with TH), and the reviews haven't been all that helpful on issues that you point up.

Date: 2015-09-12 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] puddingcat.livejournal.com
None of it was glamourised; the fights were brutal but (if you've seen it) not half as shocking as those in Gangs of New York. The rape scene was also not at all played for titillation; the leadup was *very* briefly shown any it was entirely there (IMO) to offset any suggestion that Reggie was actually a lovely bloke under all the crap and as support for what came later in the marriage. I went with 3 friends and a couple of them came out saying it was too violent to be their sort of thing, but weren't upset at all.

One other thing - his wife takes her own life via an overdose. Absolutely not sensationalised, and totally plot-relevant.

HTH - let me know if you want more detail.

Date: 2015-09-12 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caeseria.livejournal.com
I'm not sure I'm gonna watch this unless it comes out on Netflix or something, but it's an er.. 'interesting' subject. Only because my Dad is from the East End and he says (ie take with a grain with a salt, I can never tell!) he used to go drinking in their pub during his informative years. I'm still not sure if he's pulling my leg, like the time he told me he used to play the washboard in a band, or when he was a champion show jumper... *makes lemon face*!

Date: 2015-09-13 12:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ale-irenear.livejournal.com
I haven't seen that movie.. I'll have to check it out haha
It is an action movie right?


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