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This does interesting things to Pythagoras.

Date: 2003-03-04 06:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sue-b.livejournal.com
Sometimes life is just a box of chocolates

becomes

The life is exact provisory of leys and the candle of the call, this one a scato that is he

OR

Chocolate, should be dark and rich, and my men only one of those

Becomes

The chocolate, would have only the total to be dark and and my unit of the men of those

Coleridge would have been proud...

Date: 2003-03-04 07:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
It fits to format in Xanadu Kubla Khan, stately a regulation of the indicated layer of the pleasure.

Re: Coleridge would have been proud...

Date: 2003-03-04 07:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] puddingcat.livejournal.com
Indeed:

The angle and each work of each work of the angle, where the fixed field not to the interior of flagstone of the halting of the ocean is movement, one of the aspiration in the boat of the boy of est human of the race, that if it gets to be alive. Water and water? That teh of the scale and the cover to clear the place is, where it is reduced. The water and must also drink the acceptance, which requests or with the enemy.

At a guess....

Date: 2003-03-04 07:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
"Day after Day,Day after day we struck no breath nor motion. As silent as a painted ship, upon a painted ocean. Water water everywhere, but not a drop to drink. Water water everywhere, and all the boards did shrink..."

Re: At a guess....

Date: 2003-03-04 07:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] puddingcat.livejournal.com
Kaching!
You win a year's supply of nothing! Congratulations!

Re: At a guess....

Date: 2003-03-04 08:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
It came out completely different when I tried it.

to be or not to be

Date: 2003-03-04 09:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] professoryaffle.livejournal.com
He is decided or the totality follows with the thing, because it is and because,: he is the lobby of the quality. ' the resistance of the attack of the part outpost, this one cooked east heart of anh the mountain, that in the meat of the rage of the wealth is cruel or the difficulty has nevertheless knows? In the ocean the end to consider pain, in instructd of the way in the side? Taking from the conversion, of the direction the eight, as far as the interior of tis ignited, that is the splendid summary is of the importance?

Date: 2003-03-04 10:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] omentide.livejournal.com
I came to the contact of a part of the old operation of earth, this one considerable one both indicated and stones to sharpen trunkless of the position of piedini some in the Earth inculta.

Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

Date: 2003-03-04 12:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] puddingcat.livejournal.com
"I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: `Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert."

Re: Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

Date: 2003-03-05 04:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] omentide.livejournal.com
Yes, I rather thought the 'trunkless' gave it away.

Date: 2003-03-04 11:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bursargirl.livejournal.com
That rocks. Do you mind if I friend you, in order to see more of this sort of thing?

Re:

Date: 2003-03-04 12:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] puddingcat.livejournal.com
Not in the slightest :) Hello!

Date: 2003-03-05 02:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whiskeylover.livejournal.com
I think I shall make the same request as bursargirl, mind if I friend you?

This translator does do strange things to english poetry:

Half of the league of half of half of one ties of the league in the front part, transmits intelligent brigade

and

small small, lucky, we saw the contact of brothers. For, those to extinguish itself, the relative alcohol with me are today my brother

Date: 2003-03-05 02:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] puddingcat.livejournal.com
No problem at all :) *adds back*

Date: 2003-03-05 05:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whiskeylover.livejournal.com
No idea how they managed to bring alcoho into that translation- that started out as "We few, we happy few, we band of brothers. For he who sheds his blood with me today shall be my brother"

blood = alcohol?

Date: 2003-03-05 05:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] puddingcat.livejournal.com
Whisky = water of life = blood? Though it didn't mention translating it into Scottish at any point :)

Date: 2003-03-05 06:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whiskeylover.livejournal.com
*giggle* any guesses on this one?
The warehouse of the God our pleasant queen, lives much stay our queen splendourful, God, to store to the queen

God Save The Queen?

Date: 2003-03-05 06:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] puddingcat.livejournal.com
And this?

Sorrowfully near demons, so that the animal, that is disturbado, the Ohio to take that it decides they to him them devices you of the bullonatura meant to him, of the short situation, of concreteness the resistance and he he hour of the ocean of the situation.

Date: 2003-03-06 03:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
That's be the national anthem then, but the mind boggles about a warehouse full of queens, perhaps somewhat like the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark.

("We've got Top Men working on the Queen right now. Top Men.")

Date: 2003-03-06 04:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whiskeylover.livejournal.com
Scary thought- top men working on the queen, that would have been her knee operation, no? ;)

Any guesses on this fien national anthem?

Can the ampere hour, word to consider it of the first light of the shovel, of which what we it hailed ferocious this with the buttock to the lustrum of the penumbra much? With which extended lines and stars luminous of dangerous fight, or, ' he, parts of SPUR, that we very left who observed to work to us, gallantly? The red one of the incandescence of and the rocket, of that the gear that went away to the fall of the pump, that blew for above in an air, estimated the end to release the raincoat until the night that our signal of the marcatura was always here. The ampere hour, the form of the word with which temporary the small one of the flag, that with spangles or verziert of rambles ' of free the Earth star and the house of transforms it brave into?

Date: 2003-03-06 04:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whiskeylover.livejournal.com
I like the "buttock to the lustrum of the penumbra"

Re:

Date: 2003-03-06 04:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Oh, say, can you see
By the dawns early light....

...the home of the brave!
And the land of the free!

Fine national anthem?
It comes a distant and poor second in *my* book.

Date: 2003-03-06 04:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whiskeylover.livejournal.com
SECOND?

My you are generous- even if one were only to include those of the English speaking nations, I would put Scotland's, Ireland's (well, all right, it's in Irish, but there is an English translation) and possibly most others before it. However, these are the only ones I know well enough to comment. If one includes other nations, then I must admit to being quite a fan of our German national anthem too

Re:

Date: 2003-03-06 04:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Scots and irish?
At least the Americans are friendly & loyal allies :)
I always rather liked the old Soviet national aanthem, actually, although I could nevr understand a word of it.

Date: 2003-03-06 04:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whiskeylover.livejournal.com
I suppose it depends on where you are coming from- being half Irish and half German, and having studied in Edinburgh...

nuff said

Re:

Date: 2003-03-06 05:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Does Germany still use the 'Deutschland, Deutschland' one? That was a fave when I was little.

Date: 2003-03-06 06:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whiskeylover.livejournal.com
Well, it would be in England.

The National anthem, or 'Song of the Germans' was written in the 19th century, as an idea of wishful thinking, asking the Germans to put aside their differences and agree on the similarities and thereby create a united Germany (this of course was before Bismarck united the different German states).

Hence the first verse stated 'Deutschland Deutschland über alles' (Germany above all). This however was only the first of three verses, but the one that was predominantly sung during the reign of Hitler. Therefore, and to avoid the associations with that time, the first verse, Deutschland Deutschland etc. is no longer sung. The current national anthem comprises of the third verse of the same song, which is "Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit für das deutsche Vaterland" - (Unity and justice and freedom for the German fatherland...)

However, the English have never really caught on to the fact that the second world war is over, so that the fact that Germany's national anthem hasn't been 'Deutschland Deutschland...' for almost 60 years now seems to have been overlooked... ;)

Re:

Date: 2003-03-06 06:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
I don't believe I've ever heard the new anthem, although I rather assumed it must have been changed, bith due to WW2 and also the 40 year partition of the country (I couldn't imagine people singing the same song on both sides of the wall).
However, mention germany to any group of schoolkids and they'll still launch into the tune of 'Gloroius things of thee are spoken'.
A few weeks ago I was actually surprised to see that they're *still* selling 'Commando war Stories for boys' comics, which I thought they'd stopped printing when I was about 8.

Date: 2003-03-06 06:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whiskeylover.livejournal.com
I always rather enjoyed those commando stories...

As for both sides of the wall, well, east Germany did have their own anthem: "Auferstanden aus Ruinen..." which roughly translates as having risen from the ruins... a bit like phoenix I suppose.

The west German (and now united German) anthem retained the old melody, but only uses the third verse.

As to your second point, that is indeed correct. Hoffman von Fallersleben (1798-1874) wrote this song while on the island of Helgoland, which at that time was British. He was a liberal democrat, and was hoping for a united Germany, as Germany at that time was a collection of separate states. It was not so much arrogance, claiming to be better than all other nations, but rather the desire to put aside the differences and unite into one country of German people. The melody he used for this is Joseph Haydn's Opus 76 Nr. 3. It actually only became the national anthem in 1922 when it was declared the national anthem by the then German president, the social democrat Friedrich Ebert.

It was only under the administration of Hitler that it laid claim to superiority over other nations.

Re:

Date: 2003-03-06 08:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
Didn't know the music was by Haydn, but it's also used for the Hymn "Gloroius things of thee are spoken", thus making it one of my favourite hymns when I was small.

I used to love Commando, but there's a part of me thinks "Are you still doing these!?" when i see them.
I'm also tempted to buy them :)

Re:

Date: 2003-03-06 06:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com
As a question, then, would that mean that when written, the phrase 'Germany Germany over all' line did not refer to the idea of germany over all other nations (as is usually assumed), but instead to the idea of a greater Germany over-riding all the smaller states that made it up?

Date: 2003-03-06 08:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whiskeylover.livejournal.com
Yup, composed in 1797, with lyrics of 'God save Franz the emperor, our good emperor Franz', referring to the German emperor Franz II, at that time residing in Vienna and the last German Lothringen-Habsburg emperor.

Apologies for the LJ post...

Date: 2003-03-06 04:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evil-c.livejournal.com
Jenny, sorry for asking here but I don't have your email address.

You wanted to talk a year ago about things (related to David). If you email me now on bisswizz@hotmail.com I will answer any questions you might have or will meet up (as I recall you asked to do last year) to discuss what you wanted to talk about if you still have anything you want to ask me or know about.

Cheryle.

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