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puddingcat ([personal profile] puddingcat) wrote2006-03-31 02:57 pm

Bwahahaha

< 12yr old boy humour >

So, when I had my mention in the Telegraph motoring section, it was under the title "In, Out, In, Out, Shake It All About".

This time, I'm titled "Science not sex".

I need to get out more.


(Although I have to say, why can't they realise that science *is* sexy?)

[identity profile] karohemd.livejournal.com 2006-03-31 02:21 pm (UTC)(link)
*grins*

Have your heard "The Hots For The Smarts" by Richard Thompson?

I like a girl in satin
Who talks dirty in Latin
A girl who’s flirty
When she quotes Krishnamurti
If she likes to be goosed
While reciting from Proust
I’ll know she’s my kind of creature
Among her delectables
Her intellectables
Must be her sexiest feature

CHORUS
I’ve got The Hots For The Smarts
The Hots For The Smarts
IQ off the charts
Give me brains over hearts
I’ve got The Hots For The Smarts

I like a girl from Mensa
With a furrowed brow
When the tenses get denser
She gets it – and how!
I need a polymath
Called Cindy or Cath
Who likes her Plato not too platonic
An autodidact
Who can add and subtract
While sipping her Tolstoy and tonic

I need a girl with a feel
For Faraday’s wheel
A girl who’ll drool
For Fleming’s Left Hand Rule
Now you may like pin-ups
Of girls who do chin-ups
Like Xena the Warrior Princess
But I’ll take to dinner
My Nobel Prize winner
With plutonium stains down her dress

I like a girl who knows loadsa
Kierkegaard and Spinoza
Who likes to play chess
Humming Porgy and Bess
She must be able
From her logarithmic table
To find all those decimal places
And what do I care
That she’s nothing to wear
And her teeth are imprisoned in braces

I want a girl with a brain
The size of Siberia
With a haughty disdain
Of all things inferior
I don’t want a learner
With a Bunsen burner
She must be the finished article
Who sees our attraction
As chemical reaction
And charm as merely a particle

I want a PHD
Who reads Linear ‘B’
Who applies her lotion
With a Brownian motion
Now some men may favour
A girl who’s a raver
A tease or a saucy young minx
But I’ll get undressed with
The girl I’m impressed with
Who’s tunnelling under the Sphinx


I hand to think of you when he played that at the gig in January. :o)

[identity profile] jonnyargles.livejournal.com 2006-03-31 02:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Image

in the next one she's nakey

*sniggers*

[identity profile] feanelwa.livejournal.com 2006-03-31 06:46 pm (UTC)(link)
She's not dressed for science in this one either! Goodness me. I mean I know that it's beer really, but it looks like bromine. Fuss fuss fuss etc.

[identity profile] puddingcat.livejournal.com 2006-04-01 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
She might as well be naked in that. No lab coat or goggles? Shocking!

[identity profile] nannyo.livejournal.com 2006-03-31 02:34 pm (UTC)(link)
good science = sex Why does no-one else realise this? WHY!

I demand appropriately applied anovas and chi-squared tests, I demand that parametric and non-parametric data be evaluated in the correct way. I demand experiments be designed and planned with analysis in mind. I demand conclusions written to summarise properly, and discussions that raise questions developed from research...oh, ooh, oooooh

ahem, sorry, I'm getting my geek on over here, but boy do I love me some good science. I may even, in my days of editing MSc papers, have shouted OH YES, when a student wrote something brilliant (rare).
N.
N.

[identity profile] puddingcat.livejournal.com 2006-03-31 02:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Blech! That's stats, not science! Only one step up from politics! Spin doctoring for geeks! Bah ;p

[identity profile] nannyo.livejournal.com 2006-03-31 02:54 pm (UTC)(link)
No, no, no... it allows the science to shine! You have to plan your experiment properly, and then see what the results tell you. It's careful interpretation of the pure and beautiful data! On its own, or with made up numbers it's absolutely no good, and is boring, but when it's explaining the sweetly seductive information it is a VITAL part of the science.

N.

[identity profile] puddingcat.livejournal.com 2006-03-31 03:07 pm (UTC)(link)
But you only need stats if you're doing flappy-paddle gearboxhand-waving airy-fairy science! The *hard* stuff is mathsy & equationny and doesn't have Data To Be Manipulated (thank you, Don Henley), or consistes of screwing lumps of Stuff together, hoofing some Power in their general direction, & watching what blows up / changes shape / runs screaming ;)

[identity profile] nannyo.livejournal.com 2006-03-31 03:34 pm (UTC)(link)
oooooooooooh, you're approaching fighting words missy! Is evolution a hand-waving, airy-fairy science?

If you look at stats, and population biology and behavioural ecology, and PHYSICS, you'll see that all the maths and the equations do is describe what is going on in front of you in a way that the human brain can understand. What is a log graph but Data Manipulation? What is relativity but equations and statistics? Eh? EH? is my data not hard enough for you? Eh? Just because physics and maths are old sciences, and have gone beyond the descriptive and experimental stage into the theoretical doesn't mean that the younger sciences aren't valid, or are lesser sciences . (Smirks about HARD science < /12 year old brain >)

[identity profile] professoryaffle.livejournal.com 2006-03-31 04:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Any science which has no real data is thoery and mostly not terribly relevant to the real world

Most science, in fact the best science is coming up with theorys then going into the real world to collect data and prove those theories. If you have data statistics is necessary and without data most theories are pointless

Science without data is more airy fairy than science with!

Grrr, arrrrr

[identity profile] nannyo.livejournal.com 2006-03-31 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Hoorah!

Also, if stats isn't science, then describing the cloud of electrons around atoms with equations is airy-fairy hand wavey soft science! (can you tell this irks me? Can you tell I lived with physicists?)

All science is equal, apart from that stuff which is poorly written and planned, with experimental design changes in the middle of the method, which isn't science, it's arsing about.

Smooch!

Re: Grrr, arrrrr

[identity profile] marcushill.livejournal.com 2006-03-31 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
The only real science is maths. The rest is just a misguided attempt to try to make the maths relate to the "real world" enough to get funding.

Re: Grrr, arrrrr

[identity profile] puddingcat.livejournal.com 2006-04-01 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Maths isn't science. Science is applied maths :p The "real world" is just visible applied maths.

More people should realise that the only adequate answer to "But why?" is the maths of the thing.

[identity profile] puddingcat.livejournal.com 2006-04-01 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Arts student :p

The real question is, do you like politicians?

[identity profile] sherbetsaucers.livejournal.com 2006-04-02 12:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Dunno, I've only really spent any kind of time talking to one. He seemes nice enough though, appears to be trying to get things done that he considers 'the right thing' and writes very good letters.
ext_4030: Branch of holly with its binomial name, Ilex aquifolium (badass fucking fractal)

[identity profile] strangefrontier.livejournal.com 2006-03-31 02:49 pm (UTC)(link)
(Although I have to say, why can't they realise that science *is* sexy?)

:D This is an issue I have with some CSI fangirls who say that Grissom makes science sexy. Actually, the science makes Grissom sexier, thankyouverymuch. Mmmmmmm.

[identity profile] puddingcat.livejournal.com 2006-03-31 02:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Eeeeee, you iconned the Mandelbrot song! May I steal? May I? Purleeease?

I'm not a CSI-watcher, but have to say that it's amazing how much sexier someone can become by demonstrating an understanding of calculus or nuclear spin theory.

I think you're the me I'd have become had I bothered to work at Uni :) It's kind of nice, having a living, breathing "what if...?", even if i *do* get envious at times ;)
ext_4030: Branch of holly with its binomial name, Ilex aquifolium (badass fucking fractal)

[identity profile] strangefrontier.livejournal.com 2006-03-31 03:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes! You need the Mandelbrot icon because you brought Jonathan Coulton's songs to my attention! I hope the equation's right; I swiped it from the wikipedia entry on Mandelbrot sets.

My latest fandom is very much about the science = sexy axiom, and it's really getting me back into maths. (I kinda lost my math-fu when I was royally stuffing up third year, and that's always bothered me, but now that I don't have any pressure to learn maths I can dabble in it as a hobby and hopefully pick up what I've forgotten and what I never quite learned!) But Charlie Eppes scribbling out advanced mathematical concepts on a blackboard and explaining them with some clever analogy? Incredibly hot. :D

I sometimes get envious of the people I went to uni with who managed to stay consistent with their studies and got through the degree properly. I've taken a big silly detour, but I rather like the way it's turned out as I've essentially managed to wrangle a way of studying as many sciences as possible at various times in my life!

tv characters of interest

[identity profile] strixx.livejournal.com 2006-04-04 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
There are three very brainy, sexy characters on television -
(in the USA) Grissom on CSI, Dr. House (diagnostician) on House, and Charlie Epps (mathematician) on Numbers.

I can think of several quite fetching 'supporting brains' on other shows - but can't think of any character names, offhand. (the tall, slim, striking, raven-haired man who works in the morgue lab on Crossing Jordan, for instance...Steve Valentine?)

Yes.











[identity profile] pink-weasel.livejournal.com 2006-03-31 05:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Grissom would not be sexy if he were not intelligent.

I think scientists are sexy because they are intelligent and also look at the world differently to me so they are intreaguing and mystifying.

Nobody ever thinks that abstract arty types are sexy so we go around pretending that science is nerdy and marrying men with physics degrees. Or something.

[identity profile] raggedy-man.livejournal.com 2006-03-31 05:48 pm (UTC)(link)
got to agree with that one

[identity profile] robinbloke.livejournal.com 2006-03-31 03:22 pm (UTC)(link)
All good science explodes.

[identity profile] nannyo.livejournal.com 2006-03-31 03:34 pm (UTC)(link)
nope, some good science mutates!

(Anonymous) 2006-03-31 04:23 pm (UTC)(link)
An 'explosion' of mutation ;)

[identity profile] karohemd.livejournal.com 2006-03-31 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Did you see that Dr Bunhead (from Brainiac) has a show at the Corn Exchange later this year?

[identity profile] raggedy-man.livejournal.com 2006-03-31 05:49 pm (UTC)(link)
real good science explodes, mutates, and then conquers

Er-hmmmm

[identity profile] dragonmamma.livejournal.com 2006-03-31 06:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Surely it is genuine knowledge and the ability to think properly that is sexy, whether it be science (old style) science (new style) or other abilities. O.K. it is obvious that I am not a scientist myself, but agree that Grissom and others like him whether genuine or acting are extremely attractive because their brains are working properly in a logical manner.
Another thing that is also incredibly sexy is the hands of a genuine craftsman. (Watch a "proper" carpenter working with wood). See its knowledge and its proper applications that are sexy.
And apart from that I can be very sexy in several different languages so "xxxxxx" your science!!!

[identity profile] nannyo.livejournal.com 2006-04-01 11:15 am (UTC)(link)
With someone in a white coat directing them how to!
Possibly with lasers!

[identity profile] feanelwa.livejournal.com 2006-03-31 06:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Because they can't see science, because they're scared of maths.

[identity profile] nannyo.livejournal.com 2006-04-01 11:17 am (UTC)(link)
Oooh, I have a rant about a large number of biology students who are like this. "I don't DO maths, I'm a biologist"... well then, you aren't actually a biologist, you're just a poor observer. The number of times I have had to tell people that. GAH!

[identity profile] munchkinott.livejournal.com 2006-03-31 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
*clicks fingers and sings the TG mag anthem*

Don't know much Bi-ology,
Don't know much Trig-o-nom-etry,
Don't know much about the science book,
Ain't no chance of a good mind-fuck.


;-)